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Julian Archila's avatar

This is my first time reading LLM papers, and I like how it pushes me to explore new concepts. My habit has been to list all the unknown terms while reading, then study them separately before coming back to the paper. That way I can follow the main ideas first, and then go deeper into the technical side. Do you have any advice for beginners on balancing this cycle of ‘read, research, reread’ without getting overwhelmed or losing the flow?

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Juan David Alzate's avatar

Thanks for the article. I used it to analyze the DeepSeek-R1 paper, which presents a fascinating case study in LLM training. From it, I would like to highlight two key ideas:

The first, and perhaps most striking, is the concept of the "aha moment." This aligns perfectly with my experience as a mathematician and researcher: the Eureka moment that follows extended periods of contemplation and exploration. In the context of DeepSeek's training, this wasn't an explicitly programmed feature but an emergent capability. The model, through pure reinforcement learning without prior supervised fine-tuning, spontaneously learned to allocate more compute for challenging tasks and to self-reflect on its chain of thought. This demonstrates that RL, when applied at scale, can encourage models to develop sophisticated, meta-cognitive abilities. It suggests that the "thinking" process we value in human intelligence might not need to be hardcoded, but rather can emerge as a behavior that is incentivized and optimized for.

The second idea is distillation, which raises an important point about the transfer of knowledge. It is truly a marvel of engineering that we can leverage a massive, resource-intensive teacher model to train a more efficient student. However, distillation is not just about transferring knowledge; it is about transferring the teacher's entire probability distribution, including its inherent biases and limitations. The very "dark knowledge" that makes distillation so effective at preserving performance is also what makes it a potential vector for propagating harmful biases.

Through distillation, we could train other models so that they learn how to reason better, but we must remain vigilant about whether we are also teaching them harmful biases and adding limitations.

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